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RE: Russian spy ring - articles, theories, etc. - Tea Lady - 26-08-2010 08:00 AM
(26-08-2010 12:27 AM)tyme4t Wrote: Well let's "hope" it was just a good old fashioned crime of passion or robbery gone wrong...
We may be told it was a crime of passion even if it wasn't though. What I still don't understand is, why are none of the media organisations asking why it took two weeks to find him and who let it be known who he works for? While I am no expert, a crime of passion is commited in the heat of the moment. You wouldn't then put the body in a bag before leaving the flat. I doubt we will ever really know what has gone on here.
RE: Russian spy ring - articles, theories, etc. - Nitrus - 26-08-2010 12:40 PM
Why wouldn't you put the body in a bag after the murder? Sure, a crime of passion is very much heat of the moment and messy. But after the fact the killer may come to their senses, realise what they've done and try to cover it up.
Working for MI6 would be the perfect cover for exactly that.
RE: Russian spy ring - articles, theories, etc. - Tea Lady - 26-08-2010 03:50 PM
(26-08-2010 12:40 PM)Nitrus Wrote: Why wouldn't you put the body in a bag after the murder? Sure, a crime of passion is very much heat of the moment and messy. But after the fact the killer may come to their senses, realise what they've done and try to cover it up.
Working for MI6 would be the perfect cover for exactly that.
I just don't see the point of putting the body in a bag when you have killed the person. Hiding it in a bag and putting it in the bath, is not going to make finding the body any more difficult when it is in that person's own flat. The body would surely only be in a bag if it had been moved from somewhere else. IMO.
RE: Russian spy ring - articles, theories, etc. - Nitrus - 26-08-2010 03:53 PM
You're speaking as a rational, logical person who hasn't just killed someone though. In a flurry of panic that might seem like a very good solution to a problem.
RE: Russian spy ring - articles, theories, etc. - age1021 - 26-08-2010 04:36 PM
(26-08-2010 03:50 PM)Tea Lady Wrote:(26-08-2010 12:40 PM)Nitrus Wrote: Why wouldn't you put the body in a bag after the murder? Sure, a crime of passion is very much heat of the moment and messy. But after the fact the killer may come to their senses, realise what they've done and try to cover it up.
Working for MI6 would be the perfect cover for exactly that.
I just don't see the point of putting the body in a bag when you have killed the person. Hiding it in a bag and putting it in the bath, is not going to make finding the body any more difficult when it is in that person's own flat. The body would surely only be in a bag if it had been moved from somewhere else. IMO.
I am sure that the flat was searched properly at first. Even if it is in a bag, bodies get ripe rather quickly and somebody would have noticed. Trust me. All facts about homicides are not put in the papers for obvious reasons...
RE: Russian spy ring - articles, theories, etc. - YourFutureMuse - 26-08-2010 05:43 PM
(25-08-2010 10:02 PM)TygerBright Wrote: Like Lucas knew his flat would be the last place they'd look for him (and Oleg)?!
Haha good point
Silly spies
RE: Russian spy ring - articles, theories, etc. - tyme4t - 26-08-2010 08:27 PM
An alledged domestic terrorism/bomb plot in Canada....
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/08/26/ottawa-rcmp-arrest-folo.html
RE: Russian spy ring - articles, theories, etc. - Nitrus - 26-08-2010 08:28 PM
I'm turning this into a general 'real-life spy stories' discussion thread. Rather than just about the russian incident. Think it'll work better.
RE: Russian spy ring - articles, theories, etc. - Tea Lady - 26-08-2010 08:56 PM
(26-08-2010 08:27 PM)tyme4t Wrote: An alledged domestic terrorism/bomb plot in Canada....
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/08/26/ottawa-rcmp-arrest-folo.html
Interesting article, although I feel they should get a better court artist. Those pictures look like they have been drawn by a five year old.
RE: Real-life Espionage Incidents Discussion - tyme4t - 26-08-2010 11:10 PM
One of the suspects in this plot auditioned for ... Canadian Idol in 2008!
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/blogs/popculture/2010/08/ottawa-terror-suspects-canadian-idol-audition.html
The funny thing is that he is disappointed that Ben Mulroney (the host) is not there...Ben Mulroney is the son of former PM Brian Mulroney...maybe there was some sort of hidden message in that piece that he tipped off his co-conspirators...If I can't give Ben my hat, it's on....
I'm just gonna go to hide under the covers now...'cause it's just too complicated