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Episode 10 Discussion [rewatch]
08-08-2010, 08:21 PM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2010 08:32 PM by Nia M.)
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RE: Episode 10 Discussion [rewatch]
Fabulous posts there JHyde and Silktie. I basically agree with everything the two of you said Smile

I loved the conspiracy theory aspect to this aspect. Being a bit of a theorist myself (well, I like listening to them anyway) it was really intriguing to hear this one. And Zaf's presentation was indeed fabulous.

This is probably one of my favourite Adam episodes - as Silktie said, he really gets the chance to show off his leadership. You can tell how much he cares for his team when he tries to get Angela to release Jo and take him instead, and he covers up for Malcolm but at the same time reassures him that it's okay.

The idea that just a name can be so powerful against someone (it 'dehumanises' then, I think was the word used by Angela about the nickname "Giggler") really got to me, having had several horrible ones myself. The repetition of "Giggler" (and the delivery, which is brilliant - subtely taunting, cutting, attacking - there from Lindsey Duncan, who is just fabulous throughout) you can tell really how much it affects Jo (MR does a brilliant job too here as the hostage).

Adding into the mix the past between Ruth and Angela, and it's an even better episode. Up until this point I hadn't really considered Ruth's background (I doubt I was the only one to do that). What we see of her life really outside of Section D. She's a bit lonely at home, no mentions of family (that I can recall), only her cat. Apart from the Ruth/Harry angle, and her utter brilliance, I might even venture to say she could be a little boring. This episode was the first one where I see that there might be a whole lot more of her that we don't see (and not just her - this extends to all the characters) and I seem to remember it being when I first started thinking about their lives outside the service, and the character histories.

In the case of Ruth/Peter/Angela, this comes around in a brilliant climax to their story. NW plays Ruth so so well - her discomfort at and hatred of the lie she has to tell, how much she hates having to do this to Angela (in spite of what Angela has done to the team), yet how pleased she is of this bit of 'proper' espionage in creating such a cover-story and getting them out of the situation; all just wonderful.

The opening scene of the episode, with Peter's suicide, was another good Spooks moment. Not for the content, but for the great way in which it was shot, and also for the not being too scared to show something like that on TV. Like in 3.01 with the American woman, Spooks often takes risks about showing stuff that could potentially be rather controversial. Yes, it's post-watershed, but it could still be pretty offensive to a heck of a lot of people.

Another reason I like this episode, is that it does make me question even more about trust. In Series 1 we had Tessa turn rogue,
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Juliet in S6
and
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Connie in S7
(and perhaps more I don't remember), but this episode really got me starting to think about who is 100% trustworthy. Once Angela's been caught, the team trust her enough to give her the status of an officer gone cold in the field (interesting to compare that to how Malcolm quite literally does this himself in this episode) but she abuses it by escaping and trying to blow up the Royal Family. So should, even when the alternative is prison, someone who's gone bad have been given this second chance, and trusted?
Oh and I'd completely forgotten to mention the "Mice" incident! Absolutely LOVE it Big Grin

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Episode 10 Discussion [rewatch] - bertowud - 03-09-2009, 02:56 PM
RE: Diana - Silktie - 03-09-2009, 04:32 PM
RE: Diana - bertowud - 03-09-2009, 05:14 PM
RE: Diana - almh - 03-09-2009, 06:26 PM
RE: Diana - Silktie - 04-09-2009, 05:32 AM
RE: Diana - bertowud - 03-09-2009, 11:15 PM
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RE: Diana - Sanctuary - 04-09-2009, 03:31 PM
RE: Diana - The Grid - 04-09-2009, 05:15 PM
RE: Diana - Silktie - 05-09-2009, 02:14 PM
RE: Diana - almh - 04-09-2009, 05:55 PM
RE: Diana - Sanctuary - 07-09-2009, 12:07 PM
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RE: Diana - Adam Carter - 11-11-2009, 04:29 AM
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RE: Diana - JHyde - 11-11-2009, 09:00 AM
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RE: Diana - watchstrap - 27-05-2010, 09:12 PM
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RE: Episode 10 Discussion [rewatch] - Nia M - 08-08-2010 08:21 PM
RE: Episode 10 Discussion [rewatch] - Noam - 11-01-2012, 09:44 AM

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