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RE: Series 10 - Episode 3 Discussion - A Cousin - 07-10-2011 01:26 PM
(07-10-2011 05:16 AM)JHyde Wrote: I think it was more that Natalie had the right combination of circumstances - she was clearly lonely and fragile among other things.
I hasten to add that being lonely and fragile aren't prerequisites for jumping into bed with someone quickly and I'm not passing judgement on Natalie at all. But I do think she was susceptible to Dimitri's charms and the approach made sense under those circumstances.
I also think that it was no casting accident that Natalie and Elena both have red hair. This may have been mentioned by someone already, but upon re-watch of this episode I wonder if there was supposed to be a parallel drawn between Dimitri/Natalie and Harry/Elena? (e.g. Did Harry make the mistake of falling for for honey trap target?) As well as Natalie/Johnny and Elena/Ilya? (e.g. their primary male in their life are kind of psychopathic but passionate about their cause?) If so, I missed it upon first viewing. What at first felt separate now feels very connected to me.
In addition, the Dimitri/Natalie scenes have always felt distinctly reminiscent to me. It doesn't look like Julian Holmes put a sepia wash on everything per se but the lighting is very yellow/brown, as if they were pointing to something in the past.
If they are connecting all the threats of the week to the main motif like that, I think it is an incredibly cool writing device!
As far as the honey-trap is concerned, Calum says that they bumped Dimitri's profile to the top of Natalie's match list. So they stacked the deck in his favor a bit.
RE: Series 10 - Episode 3 Discussion - DanieLa - 16-10-2011 07:49 PM
OH MY GOD! I do not believe you people! You go on and on about Harry and Ruth for YEARS! How can you not be over the moon about this episode?
I mean, c'mon, most of you mentioned that scene in the gallery, but nobody made a mention of the fact that Sascha comes in and actually calls Ruth Mrs. Pearce!
And she says nothing. She doesn't deny it. She doesn't correct him. Nothing.
It totally made my day!
I'm somewhat behind because I recorded all the episodes up to now to watch them one after another... But I'm so happy right now... It's ridiculous.
RE: Series 10 - Episode 3 Discussion - loladom - 17-10-2011 04:17 AM
(16-10-2011 07:49 PM)DanieLa Wrote: I mean, c'mon, most of you mentioned that scene in the gallery, but nobody made a mention of the fact that Sascha comes in and actually calls Ruth Mrs. Pearce!
And she says nothing. She doesn't deny it. She doesn't correct him. Nothing.
I missed that entirely! Will have to go rewatch, I didn't react as I didn't see it, are you sure he said that? Off now to find the moment.
RE: Series 10 - Episode 3 Discussion - Ceridwyn2 - 17-10-2011 06:26 AM
He doesn't. He asks, "Where's Pearce?" clearly expecting Harry to have made the meet. Just rewatched that scene.
RE: Series 10 - Episode 3 Discussion - loladom - 17-10-2011 12:10 PM
(17-10-2011 06:26 AM)Ceridwyn2 Wrote: He doesn't. He asks, "Where's Pearce?" clearly expecting Harry to have made the meet. Just rewatched that scene.
Yes, I dug the scene out and agree he asks 'Where's Pearce?'
RE: Series 10 - Episode 3 Discussion - inveniam - 16-11-2011 01:14 AM
The plot was alright, it reminded me of early Spooks and I liked that. Dimitri's plot in this was good, I enjoyed the uncertainty he obviously felt about being a honey trap, and his emotional involvement screwing up his judgement. He'd probably need a stern talking to, so he didn't go off getting so attached and blinded again, but I think he did well enough. Poor Natalie, I really liked her! I was unsure of Sasha's until this episode, but I'm warming to him quite nicely. I don't think Elena is being fully honest with Harry though....I'm really suspicious of her. And I'm not even going into Erin. Her Mary Sue characterisation and background plot, pffft.