[spoilers] Lucas. Just Lucas.

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(27-10-2010 05:26 PM)Beatriz Wrote:  So, my take on Lucas, I don't think he's evil or anything, I think circumstances have made him who he is right now. He is a troubled man, he has never recovered from his 8 years in a cell... I think now, he is in survival mode, he wants to hide a secret Vaughan knows and if that secret is revealed he will lose MI5 and everything he has now and his last chance to get a normal life... I guess that includes Maya. The problem is that he has gone too far to keep that secret, he's not himself anymore IMO; he's just acting desperately and he's no longer in control of himself.

Agreed.

It's like his John personality and his Lucas personality are finally at a collision and both are trying to fight this internal battle for control, and this secret and his actions have turned his whole world upside down. I've always said that Lucas in survival mode will do anything to survive, if he didn't have that side of him, I don't think he would have held out that long in Russia. The fact that he didn't return from that imprisonment an incoherent mess is a miracle.

For all I know, this series may just end with Lucas being carted off to an institution because he has lost his mind over everything that's been happening. Who knows, that may actually be an interesting route for the character, don't think we've had an exit like that before. We've had people retire, die, or run away to hide, we've never really had one who officially lost his/her mind because of the job/stress/secrets, it may be interesting to see that angle being played, and maybe for the rest of the team to see just how high of a price you have to pay sometimes to do this job or live/survive in this world. That may actually just be quite a lesson to the newbie kids to learn that you can be brilliant and the best for one second and fall into the abyss the next.

Isn't there a saying that "if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you"? I think this applies quite well to Lucas.

(27-10-2010 05:26 PM)Beatriz Wrote:  Comparisons are horrible, if I've said there's no Spooks without Harry, it's because he's being there from the beginning and he's like the thread that unites all the series. As much as I love Ruth, I would never say the same of her, she's dispensable.

I think with Harry is that he has gained too strong of a foothold, the show has allowed him to get this strong by letting him be in all the series. People identify with a strong foundation and Harry is it. He is the constant in this show for the last 9 years, he's the rock, the leader, if he falls, then it's like a building without a foundation, it will crumble.

None of the other characters carry the longevity that Harry does, therefore in a lot of people's minds, they are expendable except for Harry.

Some characters simply have too strong of a hold on a show, and the show may survive the character's departure and find a strong replacement, but it will never be the same. Kinda like CSI losing its leader Gil Grissom after which the ratings dropped over 25% or imagining CSI Miami without its red-headed team leader and indestructible foundation Horatio Caine.