[spoilers] Lucas. Just Lucas.

[theeyeshaveit]

(29-10-2010 08:54 PM)Nitrus Wrote:  

(29-10-2010 01:46 PM)theeyeshaveit Wrote:  At least a traitor is motivated by ideology, mistaken though it may be, rather than self interest.

When did this become true for all traitors? Are you suggesting that no traitor has ever been motivated by self-interest? I can think of a dozen episodes of Spooks which say otherwise.

As for those saying Lucas wouldn't risk everything to keep his past hidden, how exactly did you arrive at that conclusion?

I am no traitor expert and there are exceptions to every rule, but if traitors are usually motivated by self interest (for what I am not sure), I will acceed to your view.

I am not sure if I have this right either but to me, we seem to be being told that Lucas is doing this to have a life with Maya and that hiding his past is necessary for that.

I can't speak for anyone else here, but even if I agreed Lucas has the character to do the things he has done, my impression is that Lucas is an intelligent man with a great deal of respect, affection and trust for Harry and I find it hard to believe that Lucas would think the dangerous and hard to hide path he has undertaken would give him more chance of being with Maya than facing Harry and Maya with his past and with Vaughn's return to his life.

Harry has forgiven others for pretty serious errors I think, and I would have thought Lucas would believe years of service to MI5, serving 8 years in a Russian hell hole, and risking more Russian prison by going to Russia to help clear Harry of false treason charges, (which would not have succeeded without Lucas and there would be no Harry), would earn some forgiveness and seem like some kind of atonement to Harry for past sins.

Series S9 ep7and8 Spoiler: show

Having seen some spoilers for ep 7 and 8, it seems my thoughts about Harry may also be off the mark, but it is still how I feel about Harry. He bends the rules for the greater good and Lucas having served 8 years in prison for his country, and put himself at risk of more purely for Harry, what more penalty would Harry demand of Lucas for his sins I wonder.

Leaving aside whether you believe in the invention of the past life, what you think Lucas would do about it all boils down to how you rate Lucas in terms of being an ethical, loyal and an intelligent person. I rate him highly in all three so I think he would have made different choices. If you don't rate him, then you probably think he would have made the choices they have given us.