[spoilers] Lucas. Just Lucas.

[Belle]

(22-11-2010 02:59 PM)Byatil Wrote:  It doesn't make sense to me that the Russian's wouldn't have unearthed anything regarding Lucas' identity/history. Especially as (as you say) Beth was able to locate information about him in minutes. I also find it rather unlikely that Lucas would have been able to construct an entire past life for himself, and indeed, that the real Lucas North had no family or friends who would have missed him? It doesn't add up.

Seeing S9 as a stand-alone piece does help the story make slightly more sense, but the fact of the matter is that Lucas is a character who has been developed for 2 series prior to S9. You can't just discount that, and assume that no-one in the audience will notice/care that you've completely disregarded the characters history to suit yourself. The fact that they have used some information to support their argument which has been developed in S8+9, but not other pieces of information only supports this further. How can you pick and choose information from a characters history to suit yourself, without realising that doing so will put the characters entire history under scrutiny?

And lets face it, the Russians would more than likely have wanted to know if Lucas was using aliases which could potentially have infiltrated their systems. He would have had a Russian alias when he was captured I assume, and the Russians would have been asking about his British identity. It is possible, as I said, that they just never really bothered looking for further information once they had confirmed his identity as Lucas North... but when it's that easy for Beth to discover his 'true' identity, you do have to wonder why no-one else thought to check earlier. Especially seeing as Lucas was never really trusted.

None of it adds up for me. Either the writers thought we wouldn't notice, or MI5's security/background checks are severely compromised!

I am totally with you, Byatil, on the fact that the russians would have investigate Lucas' identity and aliases. The whole story is full of flaws (as we all agreed on many times in this forum) and there is no way that ever could account for the stupid mistakes the writers made.

I'm not sure, however, if your second paragraph is directed to me or not.
If it is, I'm certainly not saying anyone should disregard any of the characters that we are presented with, they all have their meaning, and I surely wouldn't tell anyone to 'forget' about S7 and S8, this is not what I ment to say.
I just find S9 (the Lucas/John story) so completely confusing that I think that the writers saw S9 as standing on its own.
And to make it somewhat more understandable for me, I ask myself if I should see it like that too.
But in no way am I approving that they messed up Lucas' character and history, not to mention the many faults that are present in the script.
I too have invested 'emotions' in Lucas' character and I too was speachless when I saw what they thought up for him.