[spoilers] Lucas. Just Lucas.

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(26-11-2010 04:15 PM)HellsBells Wrote:  Harry apparently, according to Ros 'sweated blood' to get Lucas back. But I have always thought the Russians only released Lucas after he had agreed to be a double agent for Kachimov and the spy swap at the beginning of 7.1 was set-up by the Russians to get Lucas back to MI5. So I have always thought, despite their apparent close relationship, Harry did very little for Lucas.

The way I interpreted is that Harry has tried over the years to get the spy-swap exchanges, but the Russians would not give up Lucas no matter what Harry is offering them in return until Lucas finally agreed to be double agent just so he can get back home since in his mind it seems that Harry isn't gonna get him back so he has to do it on his own. So when Harry finally catches one of their Russian spies, he sets up the exchange and because Lucas agreed to be double agent, Kachimov finally agrees to give Lucas back to Harry.

At the beginning of 7.1, even Harry was not sure why the Russians are agreeing to this exchange, as he told Adam, he wasn't sure why the Russians wanted their agent back and was willing to give up Lucas, but Harry was certainly not gonna give up this chance, there is also a sense of almost gleeful cockiness in Harry's voice as he told Adam, "but in this case, the return package is so much of a prize, we don't need to worry about it", I always thought that voice indicated that he seemed quite happy to finally have Lucas home.

(26-11-2010 10:25 PM)BoHenley Wrote:  I realise Harry must at times put "the Agency" first, but it was heartbreaking not to hear him offer several deals to Lucas on that roof - anything to save him. At that point, we know that Lucas is on the cusp of self-destruction [in whatever form, shooting Harry or not], but wouldn't most people try and SAVE a work colleague, let alone one that you'd had a close working relationship?

And one wonders why I have been glaring at Harry Pearce for most of Episode 8....

He didn't try hard enough, he did too little too late. He let Lucas down in Moscow, and he let him down again with this mess.

(26-11-2010 11:06 PM)Byatil Wrote:  I'm determined to analyse S9 and try to fully understand if there is any plausible way in which this plot could be feasible! As much as I hate to see Lucas' character be destroyed, I'm really interested to see if there are any hints as to exactly how and why this double-persona of his makes any sense.

I applaud you for trying to make sense of this strange storyline, and I wish you luck, perhaps one day I will be able to put this miserable storyline behind me and find peace with it, but right now, my head cannot forget the agent who gave up everything for his country and for his team and then having to watch the writers turn him into this monster whom I don't even recognize.

(26-11-2010 11:06 PM)Byatil Wrote:  Just re-watching 7.1, and noticed that when Lucas is asking Harry "What do I do? Where do I go? Just tell me and I'll do it." it seems like a bit of a sly dig at Harry? The last time Lucas followed Harry's orders it cumulated in him being locked away for 8 years, I'm assuming when he delivers this line he's insinuating that following Harry's orders has never done him much good, so he has no real reason to follow them.

It could be a sly dig, but I thought it was more of Lucas just feeling despair and looking to Harry for answers and showing vulnerability, trying to find some semblance of control or having someone tell him just what should he do now that he's back.

(26-11-2010 11:06 PM)Byatil Wrote:  Also, when Lucas asks Harry (about Elizabeta) "How is she?", Harry responds with "She's well. And happy.", Lucas asks "Meaning?" and Harry fails to respond. His next line is "It's good to see you, Lucas. You were missed.", even though his previous lack of response implies that people were 'better off without' Lucas, to an extent. After Malcolm's earlier comment ("Has it really been eight years?"), it's easy to see why Lucas would feel pretty worthless. I think it also displays the strain between him and Harry, which is brilliant to watch in this scene.

I always thought Malcolm's comment didn't mean that they didn't care or think about him for 8 years, I thought it was more of an awkward moment and for a lot of them to realize just how fast time has gone by. Malcolm seemed more nervous, as if he's walking on eggshells, but he seemed genuinely happy to see Lucas home safe. At least it was more than Harry's reaction.

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On another hand, I was listening to music, and I heard this song that I thought would make a great Lucas tribute. Don't know if you guys have heard it, but it's called Transatlanticism by Death Cab for Cutie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNqQC7R_Me4