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Series 9 Episode 4 discussion
14-10-2010, 10:16 PM
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RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion
(13-10-2010 10:41 PM)BravoNine Wrote:  Whatever dark side Lucas is showing or however way they are trying to write him as a bad guy and ruthless, I just can't fit that with the man whom for the last two series has shown to be loyal again and again, selfless, and kind.

Even in this very same episode we are seeing two very different sides of Lucas. We got a Lucas who is off on his own agenda, and didn't hesitate to frame another for his actions. But then we have another Lucas whom at the beginning of the episode put his own life on the line to be arrested by the Chinese just so the mission could be done, even though he knew that there is a chance that he may not get out, and not to mention he even showed slight protectiveness towards Ruth when they all ran out of the building with the Chinese scientist, he had his hand on her back as if guiding her.

It's just hard for me to believe that what I saw for the last two series of Lucas always coming through for MI5 and Harry, is simply just an act and that he would be a big evil traitor. I just can't see that. Not when it comes to someone who endured 8 years of torture for his country and still remained loyal, not someone who would put his own nightmares aside and risk his life to run to the very place where he was captured just because he was told to. I simply can't believe it.

There is more to this story than what we are seeing, and if anything, the Spooks writers have always been good at planting red herrings and making us believe one thing but throwing in twists that we never see coming.

From everything I have seen Lucas done, I just can't believe he would be a dark, cold, ruthless person who only cares about himself. Something is going on, and the writers sure aren't telling us.

Maybe I'm in denial, maybe I'm being too naive about Lucas's true nature, but in my eyes, I can never see Lucas as cold-blooded, so unless Lucas/RA has been fooling us all along, I just can't believe he would turn against Harry and MI5, my heart can never accept that.

So if that were to happen, that Lucas is revealed to be some evil bad guy who is ruthless and would kill or harm anyone to get what he wants, then I can only say it's character assassination. They will have successfully destroyed Lucas's character with something way worse than just some love-sick puppy-ness. It would have destroyed the best thing about Lucas, his loyalty to his people.

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said! And I desperately hope that the writers will come up with a plausible explanation for Lucas' strange behaviour! Otherwise it would just mean there are giving us an absolutely ridiculous storyline and actually think we would buy it. And it would also make Harry (and the whole of MI5) look pretty stupid: as head of the counter-terrorism department he should be a better judge of character than to recruit and promote someone whose anything but loyal, trustworthy and honest.
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Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Silktie - 11-10-2010, 07:02 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - deebab - 11-10-2010, 09:21 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Aria - 11-10-2010, 09:26 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Nitrus - 11-10-2010, 09:39 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Aria - 11-10-2010, 09:45 PM
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RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - redlyn - 11-10-2010, 10:12 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Nitrus - 11-10-2010, 10:15 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Quill - 12-10-2010, 09:12 AM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Hunted - 12-10-2010, 09:29 AM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Katja - 16-10-2010, 08:23 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - FATBOY - 12-10-2010, 10:22 AM
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RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - FATBOY - 12-10-2010, 11:03 AM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Nitrus - 12-10-2010, 04:51 PM
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RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - khandy - 12-10-2010, 06:59 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - FATBOY - 12-10-2010, 09:11 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - almh - 12-10-2010, 09:23 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Fidget - 12-10-2010, 10:13 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Nitrus - 12-10-2010, 10:43 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - tyme4t - 12-10-2010, 10:46 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Nitrus - 12-10-2010, 11:25 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - FATBOY - 13-10-2010, 12:52 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Quill - 13-10-2010, 05:31 PM
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RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Katja - 13-10-2010, 05:58 PM
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RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - KoiGal - 13-10-2010, 04:49 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Nitrus - 13-10-2010, 07:48 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - FATBOY - 13-10-2010, 09:23 PM
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RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - FATBOY - 13-10-2010, 10:49 PM
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RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - tyme4t - 14-10-2010, 11:16 AM
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RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - Aria - 15-10-2010, 04:54 PM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - JHyde - 16-10-2010, 03:52 AM
RE: Series 9 Episode 4 discussion - FATBOY - 16-10-2010, 04:54 PM
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