Series 9 Episode 7 discussion

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(02-11-2010 12:23 AM)binkie Wrote:  

(02-11-2010 12:06 AM)clamp Wrote:  

(01-11-2010 11:25 PM)binkie Wrote:  Hello! I am de-lurking to post this, and I'm almost certainly wrong (or clutching desperately at straws!): is it possible that Lucas in in fact the Albany file? I admit I have no well-thought-out theory to back this up. But it could be made to fit with the Chinese cell in 9.4 having the still-unexplained picture of him.

I think it's interesting that so much of John's backstory was told / suggested to him by Vaughan, even down to the chilling (and brilliant) part about being a killer waking up. There is possibly something here to underline the fact that Lucas really has not been in control of his own life for a very long time.

Feel free to destroy this mini-theory at will!

I think you are correct to be frank...
'but your invaluable to me....' Harry pierce
Its highly plausable.

Thank you I know nobody watches Spooks for the high level of consistency on offer(!), but I do have a couple of problems with the idea that John could just get on with being Lucas simply because he had shared a bit of chit-chat over a *ahem* hand rolled cigarette.

Problem #1 really has to do with the common sense of killer!bomber!John being able to pass himself off, in a wide-ranging and rigorous interview with MI5 recruitment personnel trained to unpick psychological flaws, as someone who had already passed all the appropriate background checks. I can't imagine the final interview stage for the security service is as simple as turning up, confirming the name on your passport, and saying: "I've always wanted to be a spy."

Problem #2 relates to Lucas' survival in prison. I accept the superfically convincing argument that he tolerated what happend to to him as a kind of punishment for a different crime. However, I do not accept the idea that feckless, opportunistic John would have been capable of maintaining the persona of Lucas while someone as clever and manipulative as Oleg Darshavin got to "know every inch of [his] mind." I'm sure this can all be hand-waved. But I really hope it won't be.

Sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place. Perhaps it belongs on the Lucas thread?

Like your point 2 - It is unbelievable to think his alter ego is unknown to anyone but Vaughn and John after all this time despite his involvement with two secret services.