Series 9 Episode 7 discussion

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(01-11-2010 11:25 PM)binkie Wrote:  I think it's interesting that so much of John's backstory was told / suggested to him by Vaughan, even down to the chilling (and brilliant) part about being a killer waking up. There is possibly something here to underline the fact that Lucas really has not been in control of his own life for a very long time.

You nailed it here binkie! I was thinking along those lines when I started reading the thread, was going to answer poor distressed BravoNine with the positive outlook that Vaughn just said that, Lucas looked surprised and then accepted it. I was thinking that had Lucas known what Vaughn was putting forth as the truth, he would not have said to Vaughn that he told Harry, thus prompting Vaughn to twist the knife, figuratively that is.

And you are so right about a fake Lucas holding on to that secret while being tortured. Someone so morally decrepit to kill someone for a passport would give up anything and everything he knew.

I also have the feeling that Harry and Malcolm know more about the situation than Lucas or John or both rolled into one.

edit to add--

Spoiler: show

This may be a good time to give up on my theory that Ruth is the ultimate betrayer. Since I put that one forth, I can say any stupid thing I want now. No, it wasn't Blake. He may have been HS but not as important to us as Ruth least likely or Harry second least likely. Yeah, I said it and yeah, I think it. Sue me.

editing to add some justification for the above--
When Harry started his questioning of Lucas, he said "what happened in 1995" or words to that effect. How did he know that date? If he found out some way, I missed it. When he says his "treachery is a cancer" speech, he ends with "let it eat your soul not mine." I don't know if the quote is right but why would Harry even bring his own soul into it in that connection? He then gives Lucas his gun, knowing that he is going after Vaughn. Did Harry want Vaughn dead?

I also believe that Harry took Lucas along to the meet and greet with Vaughn knowing they knew each other, and possibly with Vaughn in on the surprise meeting.

Also want to add that Iain Glenn did a fantastic job.