Series 9 Episode 7 discussion

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Re. post from Simone,

Liked this post and it deserves a longer reply. I like the idea of Lucas/John solving problems on his own or in the grey area and not going to the team.

You seem to suggest it was John's idea to kill Lucas, but I'm not sure this is so. In both versions of Lucas's death depicted in this episode Vaughn is present. The John/Lucas version where Vaughn shoots Lucas and the Vaughn version which he suggests to John/Lucas where John strangles Lucas, Vaughn is present.

What's interesting about the depictions I suppose is that they are not objective fact but subjectivly remembered events. So from who's subjective point of view are they? I pressume John/Lucas's. So it would seem that Vaughn has a large influence on John/Lucas's psyche, even if Vaughn was not physically present and as you suggest it was John's idea to kill Lucas.

All a bit confusing with Lucas, John and John/Lucas I know :-)