Series 9 Episode 7 discussion

[A Cousin]

(04-11-2010 09:24 AM)BoHenley Wrote:  Some more thoughts, adding to those from previous posts.

Which flashback is real?
Who's still lying?
Is John/Lucas brainwashed (he sure acts like it)? As Binkie pointed out, Vaughan keeps filling in his background FOR HIM.

I went back and watched the Harry/Lucas interrogation scene again (and again and again) to see if I could see through the convoluted stories/lies. Of course, I couldn't. It seems to me that if one were purposefully lying, you would tell as much truth as possible and only pepper your story with lies? It also seemed to me that Lucas/John really believed what he was saying. The emotions are real. There are couple holes and evasions that Harry presses him on that Lucas/John doesn't fully understand. Is that because he is making it up as he goes along or because someone missed filling a hole? I thought it interesting that Harry suggests to Lucas/John that he killed Lucas for the passport. Lucas/John just accepts it. Why? Because he is lying his head off and it is easier or because he really believes it? His emotion, esp. over his remorse for doing what he did, seems real to me. In both flashbacks, the look of horror on his face as he emerges from behind the car after the bombing is the same. The only time I really didn't believe him was when he was trying to convince Harry to let him be the one to track down Vaughan. I have been totally manipulated because in my first viewing I totally bought this hook, line and sinker - to the point of tears.