Series 9 Episode 8 discussion

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(10-11-2010 01:25 PM)BravoNine Wrote:  I wish the writers had made it clearer, but all that logic seems to have gotten convoluted under Lucas/John's love of Maya. I wished they just dropped Maya all together and focused on his two lives and the home desired with MI5.

But I can believe that Lucas North lived in John Bateman, and that at the end of the road, Lucas made the sacrifice to end this mess and protect his people. If I can hold onto that belief, then this ending isn't so stupid and sad. Then I can believe in Series 7 and 8 again, then I can believe that when it counted Lucas still came through and chose to end himself rather than the people he cares about.

You brought up a very good point. I also never connected with Maya/Lucas and it indeed would have been more powerful an angle to the story if the emphasis on the Lucas/John struggle was purely done because of his devotion to Harry & the MI-5 team. The writers could have shown Lucas trying to handle this Albany switch as a way to once again prove his real loyalty to MI5 and in the end die because of it....but no....they have to throw in Maya and make his whole existence reliant on his love for her. That's what grates on my nerves. Up until the last two episodes it was not clear yet that Lucas/John would be the hateful villain. I didn't give up on him until that flash back with Vaughn. OMG my heart stopped and I literally felt sick inside. With that one scene the writers obliterated every episode Lucas has been in for me.

I won't be rewatching any of them, unlike all the seasons preceding. I loved Tom, Zoe, Adam, and especially Roz. They had their flaws but you knew their core was loyalty to the team and an honesty with each other when they couldn't be honest with anyone else outside their circle. That's why I feel cheated about the way Spooks ended RA's character. Sure he didn't kill Harry at the end, nor set up that real bomb...but they did make him the first leader agent that put his own survival before the team. (I don't count Roz's dealings with the French because she was trying to do the right thing)

All I'm saying is I could have handled Lucas' final push out of MI5 if the writers had stayed focused on his loyalty to the team, his obsession to hide his past....and NOT be the one who killed the real Lucas. They could have had Vaughn be the real killer/bomber who later convinces a clueless John to take Lucas' identity. Then when Vaughn shows up again, he tells him the truth about the real Lucas' death to force him to get the Albany file. But through it all we witness Lucas' struggle to do the best thing for MI-5 and his cohorts.....even if it looks to them that he may be a traitor. He dies saving the Albany file...and the irony being...it was a Fake! Can you just feel the agony and guilt?

Now That I would have LOVED!