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[spoilers] Sir Harry Pearce - Return of the Jedi (#3)
30-01-2011, 01:17 AM (This post was last modified: 30-01-2011 01:19 AM by binkie.)
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RE: [spoilers] Sir Harry Pearce - Return of the Jedi (#3)
(29-01-2011 05:30 AM)A Cousin Wrote:  Hiya, binkie. Slumming it? Wink

Ha ha! “Slumming it” Smile Life is such a trial! I’ll just have to force myself to carry on through this unfamiliar territory...

(27-01-2011 12:27 AM)DogSoSmall Wrote:  Peter Firth took a small role and created a character that inspired admiration and devotion.

Oh, I quite agree. I watched season 1 again a couple of months ago, and it is certainly striking how quickly and confidently Peter Firth re-drew the part of a committed but tired desk officer as a sharp-witted, still very much switched-on, utterly invested leader with any number of diamond-hard facets of real experience just below the surface calm.

I have absolutely no quibble with the performance, with the presentation of the character, or with the actor (who was a big part of the reason I started watching the show in the first place). My questions were motivated by two things: my inability to leave a thing alone just because it is functioning as it always has, and a persistent interest in the logic of a continuing function. The fact that Spooks in general, and certain characters in particular, are able to withstand this kind of constant (over-)analysis while still allowing me to enjoy the show at face value is one of the reasons I so enjoy the show Smile

(27-01-2011 12:27 AM)DogSoSmall Wrote:  You can't really speculate on whether it would be the same if you had a different actor playing a different type of character (Norman Tebbit? - god forbid!!). Of course the good will or lack of it would be entirely different.

Yes. Sorry about that horrible mental image. I apologise if anyone now has visions of Harry-as-Norman. I do think it is valid to consider, though, the part played by the perception of an actor’s popular persona in the reception of characters played by that actor. An interesting recent example of this can be seen in the character of Gene Hunt (Life on Mars; Ashes to Ashes). Here was a character presented in classical narrative terms as largely unsympathetic and almost entirely without moral merit. However, he was played by an actor whose CV is stuffed with Good Men. The redemption of the character was a lot easier to obtain when he looked and sounded like Mack and Edmund Carter than it would have been if he had been more reminiscent of Elliot Mantle or Claus von Bülow.

(27-01-2011 06:41 AM)Silktie Wrote:  I think it only becomes problematic if the creators actually want to get rid of a character, but is afraid to because they fear that the actor is too iconic to do so.

This is a good point, and one which I suspect is seldom considered in terms of the good-of-the-character. How sad it is to see dramatic characters drawing attention to themselves by their obsolescence and absurdity, rather than by the brilliance and intrigue which made them so compelling in the first place. I would hate for this to happen to Harry. I do think the production perhaps needs to be circumspect about what it needs from Harry – and what it needs Harry to be – as the show moves nearer to a natural end.

(27-01-2011 06:41 AM)Silktie Wrote:  Harry's appeal for me lies to a great extent in that he is not a perfect man; a one-dimensional knight in shining armour who always does everything right. He fails, he makes mistakes, but always with good intentions.

(27-01-2011 12:55 PM)loladom Wrote:  Harry is the backbone, structure, consistency and to some extent the moral (or imoral) compass. He sets the ethos of the team. He also sets the heart of the team and the viewer.

It is interesting, I think, how often variations on this theme are exercised in relation to this character. I will offer an observation (not a criticism: can you tell how very paranoid I am in this thread?!): it is a curiosity, to me anyway, how indulgent an audience can be of a fictional character who “does what they think is right”. I wonder when this expression of meta-ethical relativism became the standard by which an audience absolves a heroic, or distinctive, character of mis-judgment or moral-cowardice or -compromise. Harry, it is true, operates – from a universal lay perspective - in a singularly murky moral environment. He cannot be expected to refer to a flow chart of righteousness every time he needs to make a decision pertaining to national security. Nevertheless, I do sometimes find myself exasperated at the writers for failing to allow him a less Blairite accommodation for his motives.

(28-01-2011 12:23 PM)HellsBells Wrote:  ...the Home Secretary has replaced the role of the JIC, which seems so odd. That just two people Harry Pearce and (the current) Home Secretary decide on national security, it just felt 'more right' when these sort of decision were made by a committee.

This is a typically astute observation, especially in the context of the previous point. The removal from the narrative, as it is acknowledged by the characters within it, of a review committee (or similar panel of authority) only reinforces the rhetorical implication that Harry, and others like him, are both unaccountable and unsupported in the decisions they make. Of course, the show observes its own shorthand in relation to the mechanics and dynamics of the secret service – and it would be a very different show if we followed Harry into every meeting and PDR session he is required to attend. It may well be that it is the intention of recent seasons to reinforce the extent to which Harry feels increasingly isolated in his professional and personal lives, and that is why these committees are no longer referenced: they no longer form a conscious part of the demands Harry experiences from his job. Those demands have become much more about individual tests and crises; much less about chattering justification.

(29-01-2011 05:30 AM)A Cousin Wrote:  There is something to be said for being the survivor and the reasons Harry specifically is the survivor and how he copes with being the survivor - warts and all. Death is easy. Life is hard.

(29-01-2011 05:30 AM)A Cousin Wrote:  I think the popularity of the character has only strengthened the character and instilled it with more meaning by virtue of being the survivor. They kill characters off like crazy..., but Harry is the only one to stay. Why? How? At what cost? That in itself is an interesting difference to all the other characters that have come before or are to come. It is a singular character aspect specific only to this character.

[ Angel Avoiding the very substantial temptation to launch into some kind of historical review of all the ways in which pre-humanist philosophy has explored and rejected the concept of death as the easier option Angel ]: I’m glad you bring up the specific relevance of survival as a facet of the character, and as an element of significance to and about the character. I would have expected nothing less from you! I like very much the ways in which the show makes clear that the compromises and indulgences which have served to keep Harry alive to this point did not begin with what we know. Harry, as we meet him in 1.1, is already a creature of concession. We have been learning since then just what this means for him, and what it tells us about him.

I find the character of Harry quite compelling. There is a danger, though, that the fallout of season 9 could see him being translated as a kind of martyr looking for – or waiting for - a cause. This would require something of a reduction of the well-rehearsed complexity of the character, and of his rhetorical function in the larger narrative. I don’t want to see Harry become a passenger in his own fortune. That really would be a betrayal too far.
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