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Episode 2 Discussion
14-09-2010, 03:18 PM
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In all the hub bub of the count down to S9, I have been re-watching S8 and have been fixated on the name "Violet Franklin."

This may be more of a question for the US Spooks, but when she says that she chose the name because Franklin is her favorite President, does she mean:

a) Franklin Delano Roosevelt - Democratic US President from 1933 -1945, President throughout the Great Depression and WWII, creator of the New Deal, sometimes credited for at least attempting to drag the US out of isolationist foreign policy of the time and attendee of the Yalta Conference at the end of WWII. If this is the case, her references to Yalta could have double meaning?

or

b) Benjamin Franklin - who as never President but was a Loyalist diplomat and mediator between the colonies and the Crown for most of his adult life, celebrated as a great defender of the rights of the colonists by attempting to address the colonialists grievances in a way that the British could accept, until his dressing down by the kings Privy Council regarding the Massachusetts letters that led to the Boston Tea Party and being accused of being a traitor to the Crown? (He was no saint by any stretch of the imagination but was certainly an interesting guy!) If this is the case, she is insulting Lucas' intelligence with the idea that BF was a President and subtly aligning herself with BF as a mediator and possible revolutionary?

What do you think?

Now cracks a noble heart. Good-night, sweet [Spooks];
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

~Wm. Shakespeare, Hamlet
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