Series 9 Episode 5 Discussion

[A Cousin]

Totally agree BravoNine. Now, back on topic:

(19-10-2010 06:38 PM)lwhite53 Wrote:  The next part is total speculation, so I'll put it in spoiler tags.

Series 9.5 Spoiler: show

I had the terribly strong sense as I watched this ep that Ruth is being set up as "the ultimate betrayer." Some of the parallels between Ruth and Anna are striking: a life focused on keeping one's country safe; no real personal attachments, even to those who one should be close to; being sacrificed and left out in the wilderness; someone who's a part of the inner circle and trusted; one's entire being always caught up in the "mission."

I was really struck by Anna's lines to her father: "Don't pretend we did this together. We both want it. We both worked for it. There is no together." In some ways, this would seem to be the opposite of what R says to H: "We can't be more together than we are now," but is that really so? Was R really saying the same thing as Anna -- all we really have in common anymore is the mission? And then, Anna tried to scuttle it and lost herself "quietly in the world." Lucas and Harry's discussion about Anna could just as easily be about Ruth, who clearly isn't the same person in s9 as she was in s8.

Please shoot this down, as I am not at all happy at the prospect.

Oh, lwhite53, this is something I have been going back and forth on the whole of the series. Even since the first teasers came out about S9.

Series the rest of series 9 Spoiler: show

Someone mentions the idea in the Ruth thread (I think) some time ago. One day I think that may be where it is going and another I can't believe Ruth to be that dishonest, deceitful and vindictive. For me, I think the only way it would work is if it isn't the stock traitor/mole scenario. Outside of that being too damn predictable and overdone, it just seems out of character to me. Perhaps if Ruth is forced to make exactly the kind of decision she has been unable to forgive Harry for making vis her and then finds she has lie to him about it. Just guessing. Time will tell. I'd hate it but we'd talk about it for months